Pastor Kayanja, When You’re Talking To God, Record Him! – Frank Gashumba Continues Attack Amid ‘False Pastors’ Debate

Media personality Frank Gashumba has reignited his public disagreement with Pastor Robert Kayanja after delivering a sharp message to the prominent Ugandan preacher. Gashumba challenged Kayanja to record his conversations with God, a remark that has added fresh controversy to the ongoing debate about religious leaders and claims of spiritual experiences.

“Pastor Kayanja, when you’re talking to God, record Him,” Gashumba reportedly said. The statement, delivered in a provocative tone, has attracted attention because it questions how claims of communication with God can be demonstrated or supported by evidence. His words have also added a new dimension to the public discussion surrounding the credibility of some religious leaders.

Gashumba’s latest remarks come amid a wider debate about so-called false pastors, the influence of religious figures and the messages they deliver to their followers. In Uganda, prominent preachers command large audiences, with many believers turning to churches for spiritual guidance, encouragement and hope. However, questions about accountability and claims made from the pulpit continue to generate public discussion.

Pastor Kayanja, who leads Rubaga Miracle Centre, is one of Uganda’s well-known religious figures. His prominence has placed him in the spotlight whenever debates arise about the conduct and influence of pastors. Gashumba’s decision to address him directly has therefore drawn attention beyond the two personalities, turning their disagreement into part of a broader conversation about faith and public scrutiny.

By telling Kayanja to record his conversations with God, Gashumba appears to be challenging the idea that spiritual experiences can be presented as claims without evidence that others can independently examine. His remark is likely to appeal to people who believe religious leaders should be questioned when making extraordinary claims, although others may view the statement as provocative or dismissive of matters of faith.

The disagreement has also highlighted the different expectations people have of religious leaders. While some believers insist that faith and spiritual experiences cannot always be measured using ordinary evidence, others argue that pastors who influence large congregations should be open to questions about their statements and actions. This tension continues to fuel discussions about the boundaries between religious freedom, personal belief and accountability.

Despite the attention surrounding Gashumba’s comments, the remarks themselves do not establish wrongdoing by Kayanja or prove any allegations against either man. The public exchange instead raises questions about how religious claims should be discussed and whether disagreements involving influential personalities can remain constructive without becoming personal attacks.

For now, Gashumba’s pointed message has become another talking point in the debate over pastors and accountability in Uganda. Whether Kayanja will respond directly to the latest challenge remains to be seen, but the exchange has once again placed the relationship between faith, evidence and the responsibilities of religious leaders under public scrutiny.